Session Start: Sun Oct 06 00:17:56 2002
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[00:05] *** Topic is 'All Hail FANATIKA! Civ3-Demogame-Chatroom. See http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=78 for details'
[00:05] *** Set by Eklektikos on Fri Oct 04 01:21:57
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[00:05] <+Eklektikos-Away> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
[00:05] <@Octavian_X> yes, i accept.  I joined 1bc when i 'found' them a few weeks ago
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[00:05] <@Eklektikos> 12° I got the powwa stick! 12°
[00:05] <@Octavian_X> damn...
[00:06] <@Eklektikos> damn?
[00:06] <@Falcon02> Octavian wanted to be dp once
[00:06] <@Octavian_X> nothing, its nothing...
[00:06] <@disorganizer> oct: so whats your id there?
[00:06] <@Octavian_X> actually, i have some chores to do...
[00:06] <@Octavian_X> dis: what do you think?
[00:07] <@disorganizer> octavian X or octavian_x or octavianX?
[00:07] <@Eklektikos> well, if I find my technical difficulties haven't gone away you may yet get a chance.... :-)
[00:08] <@Falcon02> that means Military's next in line :-) now if only I were still MA... I miss that job some times
[00:08] <+eyrei> civ3 still 'falling over'?
[00:08] <@Eklektikos> seems ok now :-)
[00:09] <@Octavian_X> i'll just wait in a corner...
[00:09] <@Eklektikos> reboot did the trick I think
[00:10] <@disorganizer> oct: which one did you use?
[00:10] <@disorganizer> eklek: will we gain new land this chat?
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[00:10] <@disorganizer> hy master zarn
[00:11] <+bclg2> whens the parade?
[00:11] <+Zarn1> the 12th
[00:11] <+Zarn1> we have to get CivGeneral to vote in Council Votes
[00:11] <@Eklektikos> dis: as in invade the aztecs? doubtful... it'll be at least next TC before we get into position ;-)
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[00:12] <@Octavian_X> assuming we don't meet someone...
[00:12] <+Zarn1> for the Jedi Council. BTW there is another one now
[00:12] <@disorganizer> no. will a settler be ready?
[00:12] <@Eklektikos> nope
[00:13] <+CivGeneral> Im back, Any thhing happened while I was away
[00:13] <@disorganizer> ok. and i believe we wont see a culture border increase too.
[00:13] <@Eklektikos> nope, haven't actually started yet...
[00:13] <@disorganizer> ok. im bed-like now. nite oll!
[00:13] <+sike1> cya
[00:13] <@Eklektikos> g'night dis
[00:13] <+bclg2> bye
[00:13] <+Zarn1> CivGneral, please look at the Jedi Council thread
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[00:14] <@Eklektikos> ok, guess it's time to start ;-)
[00:14] <+CivGeneral> I am currently replying to the thead ;)
[00:14] <+sike1> good
[00:14] <@Eklektikos> checking TC instruction thread....
[00:14] <@Octavian_X> let's get going!
[00:14] <@Eklektikos> Fanatikan Department of Defense Turn Instructions
[00:14] <@Eklektikos> Continue exploring the lands around us. When Barracks are compleated at Morgana, Build and send the warriors there to be upgraded into swordsmen.
[00:15] <+bclg2> please dont meet someone
[00:15] <+bclg2> please dont meet someone
[00:15] <@Eklektikos> Domestic:
[00:15] <@Eklektikos> Keep the Lux/Sci the same
[00:15] <@Eklektikos> worker in Valhalla- create a road and mine on the cattle
[00:15] <@Eklektikos> worker SW of Bavaria- finish building road, then build road on spices.
[00:15] <@Eklektikos> continue build queues, unless the gov states his own queues
[00:15] <@Eklektikos> Keep people happy
[00:15] <@Eklektikos> Any objections?
[00:15] <+CivGeneral> Nope
[00:16] * @Falcon02 agrees with bc
[00:16] <@Eklektikos> that last Q was in zarn's post, btw ;-)
[00:16] <@Eklektikos> Trade:
[00:16] <@Eklektikos> No viable trades except a note to Science to give Alphabet to the Iroquois for 9g upfront and Myscitism.
[00:16] <@Eklektikos> Hopefully my deputy arrives to give insight for the Trade Department. I'll be away this afternoon, and this evening, I'll be busy compiling the list of Q&A from the Firaxis 
  Chat.
[00:16] <+Zarn1> lol CivGeneral
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[00:16] <@Chieftess> 12° I got the Powwa stick! 12°
[00:16] <+bclg2> hey CT
[00:16] <+bclg2> why is CT an op?
[00:16] <+CivGeneral> Lol, Not again
[00:16] <@Chieftess> hi
[00:17] <+CivGeneral> Hi Cheftess
[00:17] <@Chieftess> My dad wanted to use the computer again
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[00:17] <+Zarn1> Don't make me go from gracious to polite Chieftess
[00:17] <@Octavian_X> lol
[00:17] <@Eklektikos> Culture
[00:17] <@Eklektikos> Not much to add here at this stage of the game. Keep the people happy
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[00:17] <+Zarn1> both Domestic and culture want happy
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[00:18] <+CivGeneral> The key right now. Keep the citizens happy :)
[00:18] <@Chieftess> I'm going to be busy with the Firaxis Chat Log if anyone needs me... (I'll keep the window open)
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[00:18] <+bclg2> doesnt reading a log get boring?
[00:19] <@Octavian_X> also, i'm gonna be in and out.  my computer screwed up last night when i replaced the video card, and i have catching up to do.
[00:19] <+CivGeneral> Usualy there is a condensted version of the Log with the realy good stuff
[00:20] <+ThePenguin> falcon- what was your name sugestion for the next war again?
[00:20] <@Eklektikos> no new build queues have been posted for this turmchat, and there are no science instructions
[00:20] <+ThePenguin> what about CTs trade instructions
[00:21] <@Eklektikos> what about them?
[00:21] <+Zarn1> I think NL had build queues in the Bohemia (sp) thread
[00:21] <@Octavian_X> technically, those are supposed to be by science
[00:21] <+ThePenguin> but we have no science, yet
[00:22] <+ThePenguin> so shouldnt we follow the instructions?
[00:22] <+CivGeneral> I have checked the instructions thread and Donsig has made a last min. post there
[00:23] <@Eklektikos> refreshed and noted....
[00:23] <@Eklektikos> Science:
[00:23] <@Eklektikos> The FNSD endorses the trading of alphabet to the Iroquois for mysticism and 9 gold.
[00:24] <@Octavian_X> go for it,\.
[00:24] <@Eklektikos> so looks like it's time to get Hiawatha on the blower :-)
[00:24] * +CivGeneral hopes the Iroqouis dont do any thing craysy :)
[00:24] <+ThePenguin> yea
[00:25] <+bclg2> or that we meet someone
[00:25] <@Eklektikos> trade has cause Iroquois to become polite :-)
[00:25] <@Falcon02> Hey Tux! (a.k.a. Penguin)
[00:25] <+ThePenguin> yea
[00:25] <+ThePenguin> falcon- what was your name sugestion for the next war again?
[00:25] <+Zarn1> I saw that NL had queues, but I can't see them now. BTW, I said keep current if NL didn't post
[00:25] <+CivGeneral> At leasst the Iroquois are polite to us
[00:26] <@Falcon02> I forget
[00:26] <+donsig> There are science instructioons.
[00:26] <@Falcon02> it was rather long winded
[00:26] <+ThePenguin> k
[00:26] <@Eklektikos> donsig: yep, I refreshed the page and saw them. they've been carried out :-)
[00:26] <+donsig> thanks
[00:27] <@Octavian_X> have to go.  see y'all later...
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[00:27] <+CivGeneral> See ya Octavian X
[00:27] <+Zarn1> se you Octavian
[00:27] <+bclg2> bye
[00:27] <+sike1> cya
[00:28] <@Eklektikos> ok... moving units now
[00:28] * @Falcon02 would say bye but it's too late
[00:28] * +Zarn1 likes crayons
[00:29] <+bclg2> ok
[00:29] <+bclg2> thats........nice
[00:29] <+Zarn1> Are there any cities that need something to produce
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[00:30] <+sike1> I think we got them all covered
[00:31] * +CivGeneral noticed Casper the Ghost appear
[00:31] <@Eklektikos> so far the queues haven't run out anywhere
[00:31] <+sike1> the friendly ghost
[00:32] <@Falcon02> what promted Casper to appear?
[00:32] <+CivGeneral> Who knows
[00:32] <+sike1> he must be here to help...
[00:32] <@Eklektikos> preparing to upload preturn save...
[00:32] <+sike1> k
[00:32] <+ThePenguin> who is casper?
[00:33] <+ThePenguin> and is the power stick on?
[00:33] <+Zarn1> I don't know, but I can slash him in half with a lightsaber
[00:34] <@Falcon02> Penguin, you don't want me to "show you" it's on :-)
[00:34] <+sike1> who do you call?
[00:34] <+Zarn1> The Jedis!!!
[00:34] <+ThePenguin> ghost busters
[00:34] <+donsig> the Bavaria queue will run our in 6 turns - if we don't meet anyone!
[00:34] <+bclg2> saam see here
[00:34] <+bclg2> http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=523902#post523902
[00:34] <+CivGeneral> The Plumber
[00:34] <+bclg2> vote yes
[00:34] <+bclg2> vote yes
[00:34] <@Falcon02> and I was gonna say the Press
[00:34] <+bclg2> vote yes
[00:34] <+bclg2> okay got that
[00:34] <+bclg2> good
[00:34] <+bclg2> and remember bclg
[00:34] <+ThePenguin> i voted abstain
[00:35] <@Eklektikos> uploading....
[00:35] <+Zarn1> so what can the city produce?
[00:35] <+sike1> ty
[00:35] <+ThePenguin> http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=523021#post523021
[00:35] <+ThePenguin> this was my vote
[00:35] <+ThePenguin> since i already purchased a cloak
[00:35] <+ThePenguin> and have a tux with a lightsaber-holding cumberbund
[00:35] <+bclg2> yes but for everyone else
[00:35] <+eyrei> can we not discuss the rpg during the turn chat please
[00:35] <+bclg2> so vote yes
[00:36] <+bclg2> so we dont have to wait for vhs
[00:36] <@Chieftess> yes - go to another channel for RPG discussion.
[00:36] <+ThePenguin> k
[00:36] <+bclg2> sorry
[00:36] <@Chieftess> #demogame_rpg
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[00:36] <+ThePenguin> to demogame_rpg !
[00:36] <+bclg2> yes i know
[00:36] <+ThePenguin> to #demogame_rpg !
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[00:37] <+Zarn1> sorry about that guys. My thread has an effect on people
[00:37] <+CivGeneral> Stupid Internet hung up on me
[00:37] <@Eklektikos> uploaded and posted. URL = http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/Fanatika_1830BC_preturn.zip
[00:37] <+CivGeneral> k
[00:39] <+bclg2> g2g
[00:39] <+bclg2> bye
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[00:40] <+sike1> cya
[00:40] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 0
[00:40] <@Eklektikos> 1830BC, 268 gold, 5 gpt, Writing in 33 turns
[00:40] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/7/2
[00:40] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 3, Growth in 8, Archer in 2
[00:40] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 1, Growth in 10, Granary in 20
[00:40] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 17, Barracks in 4
[00:40] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[00:40] <+donsig> yes
[00:40] * @Falcon02 doesn't like granary
[00:40] <+Padma> yes
[00:40] <+donsig> I'll be back....
[00:40] <+sike1> please
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[00:40] <@Falcon02> but go ahead
[00:40] <+sike1> cya
[00:40] <@Eklektikos> pressing...
[00:41] <@Eklektikos> nothing to report
[00:41] <@Eklektikos> moving units
[00:41] <+sike1> sorry, falc. the people asked for a granary
[00:41] <@Falcon02> :-( okay
[00:42] * +CivGeneral hate granaries
[00:42] <@Falcon02> what's our military count?
[00:42] <+CivGeneral> Let me check
[00:42] <+sike1> not bad really
[00:42] <@Falcon02> I don't HATE them, but I don't think we need to concentrate on military now
[00:42] <+Zarn1> ask for help when you need it
[00:42] <@Falcon02> of course Expand then conquer is a logical tactic
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[00:43] <+sike1> if Valhalla wasn't a granary it would be a settler
[00:43] <+eyrei> i just checked the military comparisons
[00:43] <+eyrei> we are doing well so far
[00:43] <+sike1> cool
[00:43] <+CivGeneral> :) :D
[00:43] <+eyrei> but if we stop producing military units, we will quickly fall behind
[00:43] <@Eklektikos> looks like the aztecs have built a 4th city
[00:43] <+ThePenguin> yea
[00:43] <@Falcon02> yeah
[00:43] <+eyrei> aztecs are equal to us in military strength...
[00:43] <+ThePenguin> k
[00:43] <+CivGeneral> That is what I do not want to see happening
[00:43] <+ThePenguin> hows the morgana project comming?
[00:44] <@Eklektikos> barrack are 4 turns away
[00:44] <+sike1> where?
[00:44] <@Falcon02> morgana
[00:44] <@Eklektikos> out  to the west of their capital
[00:44] <@Falcon02> Iron city
[00:44] <+Zarn1> where's NL? Isn't he suppose to settle this?
[00:44] <+sike1> in the plains...
[00:45] <@Eklektikos> plains/forest
[00:45] <+CivGeneral> Once the Barracks is compleated then it should start when Barvaria builds warriors
[00:45] <@Eklektikos> all units moved
[00:45] <+CivGeneral> :)
[00:45] <+CivGeneral> k
[00:45] <+ThePenguin> k
[00:46] <+ThePenguin> enter/
[00:46] <+ThePenguin> ?
[00:46] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 1
[00:46] <@Eklektikos> 1790BC, 273 gold, 5 gpt, Writing in 32 turns
[00:46] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/7/2
[00:46] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 3, Growth in 7, Archer in 1
[00:46] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 1, Growth in 9, Granary in 19
[00:46] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 16, Barracks in 3
[00:47] <+CivGeneral> :)
[00:47] <@Falcon02> enter
[00:47] <+ThePenguin> lets try for 5+ turns tonite
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[00:47] <@Falcon02> 10
[00:47] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[00:47] <+CivGeneral> yes
[00:47] <@Falcon02> yeah
[00:47] <+sike1> please
[00:47] <@Eklektikos> pressing...
[00:47] <+CivGeneral> Yes, Please ;)
[00:48] <@Eklektikos> Aztec jag + settler appear in Aztec territory near capital. heading north, apparently
[00:49] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Archer --> Warrior
[00:49] * +CivGeneral is watching the Aztec Jag and settlers very closely
[00:49] <@Eklektikos> moving units...
[00:49] <+sike1> north by my map would be towards the horses
[00:50] <@Eklektikos> yes, they are 3 squares away from them Cyc... :-(
[00:50] <+sike1> bummer
[00:51] <@Falcon02> when we getting math?
[00:51] <+sike1> it's after PE, just before lunch
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[00:52] <@Eklektikos> found another iron tile in the hills south of America
[00:52] <+sike1> uh-oh
[00:52] <+CivGeneral> Soon the Americans would be producing Swordsmen
[00:53] <@Falcon02> the Yanks will lose the penate! :-)
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[00:53] <@Chieftess> haha
[00:53] <@Chieftess> There's a settler/jag pair headed our way!?
[00:53] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 2
[00:53] <@Eklektikos> 1750BC, 278 gold, 5 gpt, Writing in 31 turns
[00:53] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/7/2
[00:53] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 3, Growth in 6, Warrior in 2
[00:53] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 1, Growth in 8, Granary in 18
[00:53] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 15, Barracks in 2
[00:54] <@Chieftess> More cities for us. :-)
[00:54] <@Falcon02> enter
[00:54] <+ThePenguin> its 9-5 okland
[00:54] * @Falcon02 needs to remind himself CivGeneral is Military Leader
[00:54] <+sike1> do we have any warriors close to Morgana?
[00:55] <+sike1> barracks in 2...
[00:55] <+CivGeneral> We have a warrior garrisoned there
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[00:55] <@Falcon02> any more warriors?
[00:55] <+ThePenguin> YANKEES LOOSEEE
[00:55] <+ThePenguin> THE YANKEEEEES LOOSE!!!
[00:55] <@Eklektikos> the other warriors are off exploring
[00:55] <+ThePenguin> THE YANKEEEES LOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSEEEEEEE
[00:56] <+CivGeneral> I have placed an order for some warriors to be built in Barvaria
[00:56] <@Falcon02> Tux... stop
[00:56] <+ThePenguin> sry
[00:56] <@Falcon02> thank you
[00:56] <+ThePenguin> but as a yankee hating new yorker,
[00:56] <+sike1> time to kick the penguin
[00:56] <+ThePenguin> i feel its my civic duty
[00:56] <+Zarn1> back/ lost connection
[00:56] <@Chieftess> Stuck. Control yourself. :-)
[00:56] <@Falcon02> yeah
[00:57] <@Eklektikos> don't make me test out some of those nifty DS kicks 
[00:57] <@Falcon02> I'm happy too, but please don't flood like that
[00:57] * @Chieftess nods
[00:57] <@Eklektikos> ok, this being dealt with...
[00:57] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[00:58] <+CivGeneral> yes
[00:58] <@Chieftess> go
[00:58] <+CivGeneral> please
[00:58] <+sike1> please
[00:58] <@Eklektikos> pressing...
[00:58] <+Zarn1> *drumroll*
[00:58] <@Eklektikos> jag/settler duo keep heading for horses....
[00:58] <+sike1> we have lots of gold for upgrades and no warriors close
[00:59] <@Eklektikos> and that's it, excitement wise
[00:59] <@Eklektikos> yes, that just about sums it up, Cyc
[01:00] <@Chieftess> hehe.. what do they need horses for? :-) If they were smart, they'd do a jag rush...
[01:00] <+ThePenguin> yea
[01:00] <+Zarn1> I can't stay around much longer, so if there is a Domestic issue, bring it up now
[01:00] <+sike1> looks like we should make more gold statues and throw them at our enemies
[01:00] <+ThePenguin> w a uu that u can build rite off the bat, u should rush 'em
[01:00] <@Chieftess> 2.5 jags per horseman.
[01:00] * @Eklektikos thinks CT's heading over to the dark side :-)
[01:01] <@Eklektikos> moving units...
[01:01] * @Chieftess played FFX today and saw a Jedi Mind Trick! :D
[01:01] <@Chieftess> ehem...
[01:02] <+Zarn1> none?
[01:02] <+sike1> this is not the CT you are looking for...
[01:02] <+Zarn1> Chieftess, what did I say about using Jedi powers when you aren't a Jedi
[01:03] <@Eklektikos> Strike her down and she will become more powerful than we can possibly imagine...
[01:04] <+CivGeneral> lol
[01:04] <+Zarn1> well I'm leaving guys, since there are no urgent Domestic issues you need me for
[01:04] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 3
[01:04] <@Eklektikos> 1725BC, 283 gold, 5 gpt, Writing in 30 turns
[01:04] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/7/2
[01:04] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 3, Growth in 5, Warrior in 1
[01:04] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 1, Growth in 7, Granary in 17
[01:04] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 14, Barracks in 1
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[01:05] <+sike1> cya zarn
[01:05] <@Eklektikos> bye zarn
[01:05] <+sike1> barracks in 1
[01:05] <+ThePenguin> k
[01:05] <+CivGeneral> k
[01:05] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[01:05] <+ThePenguin> yea
[01:05] <+sike1> please
[01:05] <+ThePenguin> bye zarn
[01:05] <+CivGeneral> Sure
[01:06] <+CivGeneral> *Drum roll*
[01:06] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria continues warriors
[01:07] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Barracks --> Spearman
[01:07] <+sike1> k
[01:07] <@Eklektikos> and...
[01:07] <@Eklektikos> the chinese appeared
[01:07] <+sike1> hahaha
[01:07] <@Chieftess> Not again! :)
[01:08] <+sike1> got three turns done
[01:08] <@Eklektikos> so once again I'll say hello then save and quit ;-)
[01:08] <+Zarn1> bye all
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[01:08] <+sike1> k
[01:08] <+ThePenguin> oy
[01:08] <@Chieftess> hehe.. let's take a vote. Are we on a pangaea? :-)
[01:08] <+ThePenguin> what do they have?
[01:09] <+ThePenguin> if nething
[01:09] <+CivGeneral> Dont tell me another Civ Poped in
[01:09] <+ThePenguin> yup
[01:09] <+sike1> this island aint big enough for the 9 of us...
[01:09] <+CivGeneral> Arg. Go bye bye other civ
[01:09] <+ThePenguin> yup
[01:09] <@Eklektikos> 4 cities, a cautious attitude and bugger all else, SAaM
[01:10] <+CivGeneral> and I thought we are playing all 10 turns tonight
[01:10] <+ThePenguin> we should make a"To Whack List", capisi?
[01:10] <@Eklektikos> saving game....
[01:10] <+sike1> didn't quite get the barracks completed
[01:10] <+eyrei> do the chinese have any thing to trade?
[01:10] <+ThePenguin> how many turns we play?
[01:11] <+sike1> 3 complete
[01:11] <+sike1> started 4th
[01:11] <@Eklektikos> Cyc, barracks were completed
[01:11] <+eyrei> if they are devoid of anything to trade, there is no reason to stop
[01:11] <+sike1> cool
[01:12] <@Eklektikos> eyrei - they may not have anything to trade, but it's possible that we could sell contact with them to other civs
[01:12] <+eyrei> do they not have contact with everyone?
[01:12] <+ThePenguin> o yea, we can do that
[01:13] <@Eklektikos> I'm not sure. didn't check
[01:13] <+eyrei> what i am saying is if they have everything we have, and no more, there is no reason to stop
[01:13] <+ThePenguin> yea
[01:13] <+ThePenguin> no new techs, no new nothing
[01:13] <+eyrei> it is possible , though not likely
[01:13] <@Chieftess> Yeah, do a quick check with all civs.
[01:13] <+sike1> he's got a point there.
[01:13] <+ThePenguin> nothing to take to the fourms
[01:13] <@Chieftess> And see if contact can be traded.
[01:14] <+sike1> they could be on the other side of the planet
[01:15] <+eyrei> if so, they likely made contact with everyone on their way over
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[01:15] <@Chieftess> And if anyone has contact with America and England, they might have already given contact.
[01:16] <+sike1> maybe the Iro's?
[01:16] <@Chieftess> Oh, and check to see if England and America have contact with anyone.
[01:17] <@Chieftess> Well, I think the random map I started way back turned out to be a warmonger's map. :)
[01:18] <+ThePenguin> yay!
[01:18] <@Eklektikos> ok, looks like everyone has contact with eveyone....
[01:18] <@Eklektikos> so, I guess we can continue :-)
[01:18] <+sike1> mmmm :)
[01:18] <@Chieftess> And it's definately a warm map (due to the small tundra).
[01:19] <+sike1> ty eklektikos
[01:19] <@Eklektikos> in which case... moving units
[01:19] <@Chieftess> Do wet maps increase bonus resources?
[01:19] <+ThePenguin> yea
[01:19] <+ThePenguin> so were going on?
[01:19] <@Chieftess> There's lots of grasslands though...
[01:19] <@Eklektikos> beginning road construction on spice tile...
[01:19] <@Chieftess> wet, warm, 4 (or 5) billion years. Continents or Pangaea. (60-70%)
[01:19] <+sike1> k
[01:20] <@Chieftess> yeah! :-)
[01:20] <+CivGeneral> Possibly we are on a Pangea Map
[01:20] <+ThePenguin> umm C- how goes the QA summary 4 the chat log?
[01:21] <@Chieftess> If there's small tundra, that can mean huge amounts of desert or jungle.
[01:21] <@Chieftess> I'm well within the 2nd hour.
[01:21] <@Chieftess> Taking a little break. :)
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[01:21] <+ThePenguin> k
[01:22] <@Chieftess> Then I'll put it in a table-style for the questions. (game related, and off topic questions)
[01:23] <@Chieftess> HTML table
[01:23] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 4
[01:23] <@Eklektikos> 1700BC, 288 gold, 3 gpt, Writing in 29 turns
[01:23] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/7/2
[01:23] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 3, Growth in 4, Warrior in 2
[01:23] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 1, Growth in 6, Granary in 16
[01:23] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 13, Spearman in 7
[01:23] <+ThePenguin> like my are you angry at anarch one
[01:23] <+ThePenguin> so we are deff going on
[01:24] <@Chieftess> hehe
[01:24] <@Eklektikos> yep, carrying on :-)
[01:24] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[01:25] <+ThePenguin> yay!
[01:25] <@Chieftess> yes!
[01:25] <+sike1> please
[01:25] <+CivGeneral> Yay! We are conninuing
[01:25] <@Eklektikos> pressing...
[01:25] <+buzzthespy> *is scared* -wonders why everyone is saying "yay"
[01:25] <@Eklektikos> nothing to report
[01:25] <+ThePenguin> i dont know
[01:25] <@Eklektikos> moving units
[01:25] <+ThePenguin> yay is just a happy word
[01:26] <+buzzthespy> :p
[01:26] <@Chieftess> Spy - Because we're invading GC! :[
[01:26] <+ThePenguin> a word to get your mind off of the windows machine that wont recognise your mac based cable network
[01:26] <@Eklektikos> warrior from Bavaria enters Morgana
[01:26] <@Chieftess> :P
[01:26] <+ThePenguin> upgrade?
[01:26] <@Eklektikos> next turn, peng
[01:26] <+ThePenguin> now- correct me if im wrong, but in 1.29, do swordsmen upgrade to anything?
[01:26] <+CivGeneral> :D
[01:27] <@Eklektikos> nope, no further upgrade path
[01:27] <+CivGeneral> No, But with the editor I made them upgrade to a Riflemen :)
[01:27] <+ThePenguin> they should really fix that
[01:27] <@Eklektikos> arg
[01:28] <+ThePenguin> when i get 2 edit it for my "My First Diety" map/scn (a work ive been coming up with since i got civ)
[01:28] <+ThePenguin> not another one...
[01:28] <+ThePenguin> is it?
[01:28] <@Eklektikos> I said nothing to report... but the Aztecs have sneakily built a city next to the horses
[01:28] <+CivGeneral> Please no more Civs
[01:28] <@Eklektikos> not that it wasn't expected
[01:28] <+CivGeneral> Thoes Aztecs.
[01:28] <+ThePenguin> o
[01:28] <+ThePenguin> our horses?
[01:29] <+CivGeneral> I just hope they dont have The Wheel
[01:29] <@Eklektikos> yup, "our" horses
[01:29] <+ThePenguin> the 1 that we were planing on building by?
[01:29] <@Eklektikos> mould appear they also have horseback riding
[01:29] <@Eklektikos> would, even
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[01:30] <+ThePenguin> o dear
[01:30] <+CivGeneral> Well looks like we should be adding a Unit that would Counter the Mounded units
[01:31] <@Chieftess> Well, that's fine if they want to waste their shields on a more expensive unit. :)
[01:31] <@Eklektikos> 3 gem tiles found in large looking mountainous region at the western end of that long and windy range
[01:31] <@Chieftess> (even though it has 2 attack, BUT... you get 1 more jag per 2 horses)
[01:31] <+ThePenguin> nice
[01:31] <@Chieftess> It's a SNAKE! :)
[01:31] <+CivGeneral> :)
[01:31] <@Eklektikos> preaching to the choir here, CT ;-)
[01:31] <+ThePenguin> ?
[01:32] <@Chieftess> Maybe we should call it "Snakehead Mountain Range" :)
[01:32] <@Chieftess> Maryland joke.
[01:32] <+ThePenguin> o
[01:32] <+ThePenguin> pardon the new yorker
[01:32] <+CivGeneral> o
[01:32] <@Chieftess> ok, back to the log....
[01:34] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 5
[01:34] <@Eklektikos> 1675BC, 291 gold, 3 gpt, Writing in 28 turns
[01:34] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/7/2
[01:34] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 3, Growth in 3, Warrior in 1
[01:34] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 1, Growth in 5, Granary in 15
[01:34] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 12, Spearman in 6
[01:34] <+CivGeneral> K
[01:34] <+ThePenguin> k
[01:34] <+ThePenguin> upgrade time?
[01:34] <@Eklektikos> do we normally upload a save at this point, CT?
[01:35] <+CivGeneral> Yes
[01:35] <+sike1> yes
[01:35] <+CivGeneral> Save and upload
[01:35] * @Eklektikos has never DPed in a chat that has progressed this far ;-)
[01:35] <@Eklektikos> ok then, saving an uploading
[01:35] <+sike1> a new RECORD!!!
[01:35] <+CivGeneral> :D
[01:35] <+CivGeneral> Finaly to the halfway point
[01:36] <+ThePenguin> yea!
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[01:37] <+donsig> anyone here?
[01:37] <+sike1> not me
[01:37] <+ThePenguin> i am
[01:37] <+sike1> or them
[01:37] <+donsig> why is it so quiet?
[01:37] <+sike1> uploading
[01:37] <+_spy> you came in ;)
[01:37] <+donsig> oh
[01:37] <+donsig> how many turns?
[01:37] <+ThePenguin> 5
[01:37] <+CivGeneral> 5 turns :D
[01:38] <+donsig> still playing?
[01:38] <+sike1> yep
[01:38] <+CivGeneral> Oh yea
[01:38] <+ThePenguin> yep
[01:38] <+donsig> my tourney game keeps hanging up
[01:39] <+donsig> the Chinese bomb San Francisco and an F-16 comes out and just hangs there
[01:39] <+sike1> those darn F-16's
[01:39] <+ThePenguin> yep
[01:39] <@Eklektikos> d'oh... that reminds me of SMAC....
[01:39] <+ThePenguin> good ol SMAC
[01:40] <+donsig> i had alot of work into that game
[01:40] <+donsig> Been fighting the Americans with artilery, infantry and cavalry - they have mech inf and armor
[01:41] <+_spy> smac did freeze ;)
[01:41] <+_spy> er *didnt*
[01:41] <@Chieftess> donsig - I had that problem with a GOTM...
[01:41] <@Eklektikos> yup, and the Pop is a prominent member of Al Qaeda, Spy.... :-p
[01:41] <@Eklektikos> Pope, even
[01:41] <+donsig> did you fix the problem CT?
[01:42] <@Chieftess> I couldn't...
[01:42] <@Eklektikos> Save uploaded and posted. URL = http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/Fanatika_1675BC.zip
[01:42] <+donsig> guess I'll have to move on to another game....
[01:42] <@Chieftess> The thing would hang (the button would blink once..) for 2-3 hours! (then blink back to blue)
[01:42] <@Chieftess> Might be some recursion.
[01:43] <+donsig> did you finish that game CT or give it up?
[01:43] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[01:43] <+CivGeneral> Yes, Please
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[01:44] <+ThePenguin> yea
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[01:44] <+sike1> please
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[01:44] <@Eklektikos> pressing....
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[01:44] <+CivGeneral> Its Upgrade time :D
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[01:44] <+ThePenguin> da da da da da da dummmmmm
[01:45] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria continues warriors
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[01:45] <@Eklektikos> russians are building the Pyramids
[01:45] <+ThePenguin> okay
[01:45] <+CivGeneral> k
[01:45] <@Eklektikos> Iroquois are buildng the Oracle
[01:46] <@Eklektikos> nothing more to report
[01:46] <@Eklektikos> moving units
[01:46] * +CivGeneral hopes noone is building the GL
[01:46] <+ThePenguin> same
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[01:46] <+ThePenguin> or if someboddy does build the GL, its the Aztecs
[01:46] <+ThePenguin> hey plex
[01:46] * @Eklektikos is tempted to add "GL" to the bad-language auto-kicker ;-)
[01:47] <+sike1> :)
[01:47] <+plexust> hi all
[01:47] <+sike1> hey plexust
[01:47] <@Eklektikos> hey plexus
[01:47] <+donsig> I see we met the Chinese?!?
[01:47] <+ThePenguin> yea
[01:47] <+plexust> what?
[01:47] <@Eklektikos> yep, we did indeed
[01:47] <+ThePenguin> we didnt stop cause they didnt have anything
[01:48] <@Chieftess> And no one else had anything
[01:48] <+donsig> tsk, tsk
[01:48] <@Eklektikos> and everybody had contact with them
[01:48] <+plexust> i see
[01:48] <+plexust> i'll brb
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[01:49] <+_spy> :s
[01:50] <+donsig> india has iron working now
[01:51] <+ThePenguin> okay
[01:51] <+ThePenguin> or not..
[01:51] <+donsig> did we sell iron working to Japan? - they have it now also
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[01:51] * @Eklektikos 1,4[ 8,4News Flash1,4 ] first Warrior --> Swordsman upgrade has been carried out :-)
[01:52] <+ThePenguin> yay!!!
[01:52] <+sike1> cool
[01:52] <+ThePenguin> um. plex, u read my post in the eatery, rite?
[01:52] <+donsig> Hiawatha has 50 gold for iron working...
[01:52] <@Chieftess> yeah! Straight from the funds for the War Effort! :D
[01:52] <+Plexust> @penguin uh, yea, i think
[01:52] <+Plexust> yay!
[01:52] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 6
[01:52] <@Eklektikos> 1650BC, 254 gold, 2 gpt, Writing in 27 turns
[01:52] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/7/2
[01:52] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 3, Growth in 2, Warrior in 2
[01:52] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 1, Growth in 4, Granary in 14
[01:52] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 11, Spearman in 5
[01:53] <+sike1> k
[01:53] <+donsig> how about selling iron wotking to the Iroquois?
[01:53] <+CivGeneral> :D
[01:53] <+donsig> *working
[01:53] <+sike1> how about not?
[01:53] <+Plexust> i think we should
[01:53] <+CivGeneral> Dont trade Iron Working to them
[01:54] <+Plexust> before someone else does
[01:54] <+CivGeneral> As rule of thumb that I follow, Any tech that we discover first that creates military units should not be traded
[01:54] <+Plexust> makes sense...
[01:55] <+ThePenguin> yea
[01:55] <+donsig> we didn't get it first - we bought it from someone
[01:55] <+donsig> have the civs have it already
[01:55] <+donsig> *half
[01:55] <+donsig> or we researched it what's the difference now/
[01:55] <+donsig> the cat's out of the bag
[01:56] <+CivGeneral> lol
[01:56] <+sike1> we have lots of gold now, we need warriors
[01:56] <+donsig> we've only enough gold to upgrade six more warriors
[01:56] <+donsig> Bavaria can crank out warriors every two turns
[01:57] <+ThePenguin> o
[01:57] <+donsig> at 2 gpt it'll take 20g  to upgrade one
[01:57] <@Eklektikos> only Iros, Chinese & Russians lack Iron Working....
[01:57] <+Plexust> i say we trade iron working, it will help
[01:57] <+donsig> 50 g is 1 1/4 upgrades
[01:57] <+ThePenguin> so what if we continue what were doing, until we run out of gold
[01:57] <+donsig> then we may lose the chance to get Hiawatha's gold
[01:57] <+sike1> 1 whole swordsman?
[01:58] <+ThePenguin> then we road it to Barvira, making it produce on every 6 turns (should go down with pop up)
[01:58] <+donsig> this could be the one that goes elite sike
[01:58] <+Plexust> "1 grain of rice can tip the scales"
[01:59] <+sike1> so do it
[01:59] <+sike1> i'm a culture kind of guy
[01:59] <@Chieftess> 50g is a grain of rice, but IW just might be a huge boulder!
[01:59] <+eyrei> how many turns have we played?
[01:59] <+ThePenguin> yea
[01:59] <+donsig> i ain't afraid of no Iroquois with a sword!
[01:59] <@Chieftess> 6 or 7
[02:00] <+Plexust> the iroquois aren't that aggressive
[02:00] <+CivGeneral> I beleve we are on the 6th turn
[02:00] <+ThePenguin> besides, wouldnt they use their uu?
[02:00] <+Plexust> no, the 7th
[02:00] <+sike1> but they could take aztec cities
[02:00] <@Eklektikos> still on turn 6.. just
[02:00] <+donsig> are they fighting the Aztecs/
[02:00] <+sike1> our aztec cities
[02:00] <@Eklektikos> still in turn 6, just....
[02:00] <+donsig> like the one near our horse?
[02:01] <+Plexust> i'm not too worried about that...
[02:01] <@Eklektikos> hah, sorry for the double send there
[02:01] <+sike1> np
[02:02] <@Eklektikos> hmm... Iros have 5 cities...
[02:02] <+CivGeneral> np
[02:02] <+ThePenguin> k
[02:02] <+sike1> don't sell
[02:02] * +CivGeneral thinks the AI Civs are producing like rabbits
[02:02] <+ThePenguin> so iron selling is bad
[02:02] <@Chieftess> How many do the others have?
[02:02] <@Chieftess> (cities)
[02:02] <@Eklektikos> checking...
[02:02] <@Chieftess> Well, we've been making archers and future swords...
[02:02] <+sike1> more than us...
[02:02] <+Plexust> let's get some freaking cities then
[02:02] <+Plexust> sorry...
[02:03] <@Eklektikos> Japs - 5
[02:03] <@Chieftess> That's what I've been saying all along (not those words, though..) :)
[02:03] <+sike1> someone wanted to build a granary
[02:03] <+donsig> The Aztecs also have 5 cities and iron working
[02:03] <@Eklektikos> indians - 4
[02:03] <+Plexust> do the aztecs have Iron???
[02:03] <+ThePenguin> can we come up with a non racial name for the japanese?
[02:03] <@Eklektikos> Americans - 5
[02:03] <+_spy> :roll:
[02:03] <+sike1> asians?
[02:03] <+Plexust> Sams?
[02:03] <@Chieftess> I could have put that in my bad word kicker. ;)
[02:04] <+Plexust> (samurai)
[02:04] <+_spy> lol
[02:04] <+CivGeneral> lol
[02:04] <+sike1> penguins?
[02:04] <+Plexust> yay!
[02:04] <@Eklektikos> Limeys - 5
[02:04] <@Eklektikos> :-p
[02:04] <+CivGeneral> ?
[02:04] <+donsig> I don't think the Aztecs have iron
[02:04] <@Eklektikos> (English)
[02:04] <+sike1> :)
[02:04] <+Plexust> good
[02:04] <+CivGeneral> o
[02:04] <@Eklektikos> Russians - 4
[02:05] <@Eklektikos> Aztecs - 5
[02:05] <+sike1> Germans - 3
[02:05] <+Plexust> duh
[02:05] <@Eklektikos> Chinese - 5
[02:05] <+Plexust> ;)
[02:05] <+donsig> so, how about a decision on this sale so we can move along...
[02:05] <+sike1> i thought i gave you one...
[02:06] <+sike1> :0
[02:06] <+donsig> I meant a collective decision sike
[02:06] <@Eklektikos> ok
[02:06] <+sike1> i know
[02:06] <@Eklektikos> Spot Citizen Vote: Shall we sell Iron Working to the Iroquois for 50 gold?
[02:07] <+_spy> Yea
[02:07] <+_spy> :mischief:
[02:07] <+ThePenguin> no
[02:07] <+sike1> vote = no
[02:07] <+Plexust> yes
[02:07] <@Eklektikos> vote = yes
[02:07] <+_spy> everyone else has it
[02:07] <+_spy> :s
[02:08] <+donsig> yes
[02:08] <+CivGeneral> no
[02:09] <+_spy> 4-3?
[02:09] <+sike1> 3-4?
[02:09] <+sike1> :)
[02:09] <@Eklektikos> lol
[02:09] <+_spy> ;)
[02:09] <@Chieftess> Well, we've gotten 50 before...
[02:09] <+_spy> vote the rest of you lazy lugs
[02:09] <@Chieftess> How many warriors do we still have?
[02:09] <@Eklektikos> yes - 4 : 3 - no
[02:10] <@Eklektikos> 4 warriors
[02:10] <@Eklektikos> 2 out exploring
[02:10] <@Chieftess> And how much gold?
[02:10] <@Eklektikos> 1 garrisoned in morgana
[02:10] <+_spy> majarity-7?
[02:10] <@Eklektikos> and one on its way to be upgraded
[02:10] <@Eklektikos> 254 gold
[02:10] <@Chieftess> And how much gold?
[02:10] <@Chieftess> ok
[02:10] <+sike1> about 190g?
[02:11] <+sike1> we're rich
[02:11] <@Chieftess> Can you get gpt out of it?
[02:11] <@Eklektikos> excuse me, CT?
[02:11] <+Plexust> 1 gpt would help...
[02:11] <+ThePenguin> alot
[02:11] <@Chieftess> gold per turn
[02:11] <+_spy> no 1gpt would egual 20 plexus
[02:11] <@Chieftess> gpt = gold per turn
[02:11] <+_spy> need over 3
[02:12] <@Chieftess> 2 = 40g, 3 = 60
[02:12] <+Plexust> i know, i'm just saying 40g and 1gpt
[02:12] <+ThePenguin> ect ect
[02:12] <+_spy> okay :)
[02:12] <@Eklektikos> yes, I know that... just trying to work out what your exact question meant, CT... :-)
[02:12] <+sike1> ct means 50 gold and some gpt, i think
[02:12] <@Eklektikos> ah, for the trade
[02:13] <+ThePenguin> umm.. im gonna be going soon
[02:13] <+ThePenguin> so bye
[02:13] <+sike1> cya
[02:13] <@Eklektikos> bye peng
[02:13] <+sike1> finish yer drink?
[02:13] <+_spy> bye stuck
[02:13] <+ThePenguin> yea, the 3088 barvaria vintage
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[02:13] <+sike1> cool
[02:14] <@Eklektikos> "never accept such a deal"
[02:14] <+Plexust> see ya penguin
[02:14] <@Chieftess> well, 300+ might get us a tech...
[02:14] <@Chieftess> But, it's IW...
[02:14] <+sike1> so yer vote is...
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[02:15] <+sike1> just say no
[02:15] <@Chieftess> I abstain. :-) I just can't decide on this one...
[02:15] <@Eklektikos> lol, should have seen THAT coming... ;-)
[02:15] <@Chieftess> We've sold enough IW already...
[02:15] <+sike1> hehehe
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[02:16] <+Padma> back
[02:16] <@Eklektikos> hey Padma
[02:16] <+sike1> vote culture man
[02:16] <+donsig> hehe
[02:16] <@Chieftess> Padma - trade 50g to the (Indians? Or Iroquois?) for 50.
[02:16] <@Chieftess> ?
[02:16] <@Eklektikos> how's your voting arm?
[02:16] <+Padma> reading back a bit
[02:16] <@Chieftess> yes or no.
[02:16] <+Padma> yes
[02:17] <@Chieftess> I mean IW
[02:17] <@Chieftess> for 50. :)
[02:17] <+Padma> trade IW to Iroquois for 50 g
[02:17] <+sike1> 5y - 3-n?
[02:17] <@Chieftess> 5-3-1.
[02:17] <+sike1> yep
[02:18] <+sike1> do it mr. president
[02:18] <@Chieftess> That's all the votes. TBay doesn't appear to be here.
[02:18] <+Plexust> yay
[02:18] <@Eklektikos> ok
[02:19] <+_spy> rangers? where?
[02:19] <@Chieftess> Casper_the_Ghost = TBay_Rangers85
[02:19] <@Eklektikos> selling iron working off the back of the Fanatikan truck of state ;-)
[02:19] <@Chieftess> truck?
[02:19] <@Chieftess> :-)
[02:19] <+_spy> camel
[02:19] <+_spy> :mischief:
[02:19] <@Eklektikos> sold
[02:20] <@Eklektikos> and Iros now polite
[02:20] <+sike1> they happy?
[02:20] <+sike1> good
[02:20] <+_spy> that means they got a good deal humph we could have palyed haggle
[02:21] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 6
[02:21] <@Eklektikos> 1650BC, 304 gold, 2 gpt, Writing in 27 turns
[02:21] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/7/2
[02:21] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 3, Growth in 2, Warrior in 2
[02:21] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 1, Growth in 4, Granary in 14
[02:21] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 11, Spearman in 5
[02:21] <+sike1> this t/c is taking waayy tooo long :)
[02:21] <+_spy> how long have you all been here?
[02:21] <@Eklektikos> I'm not a speed demon like CT... ;-)
[02:21] <+sike1> 2.5 hours
[02:21] <+sike1> i'm just kidding
[02:22] <+_spy> really how long?
[02:22] <@Eklektikos> I don't know... they normally whine because they're two short....  :-p
[02:22] <@Eklektikos> two?!?
[02:22] <+sike1> 2.5 hours, really
[02:22] <@Eklektikos> I don't believe I just typed that... :s
[02:22] <+sike1> j/k was to eklektikos
[02:22] <+_spy> hehe you have a point ek
[02:22] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[02:22] <+_spy> oh well then this is taking too long :p
[02:23] <@Eklektikos> before my vocabulary completely self-destructs?
[02:23] <+_spy> do you have to ask everytime?
[02:23] <+sike1> please
[02:23] <+sike1> yep
[02:23] <+_spy> that consitituion is  kinda strict eh?
[02:23] <@Eklektikos> with good reason, spy
[02:23] <@Eklektikos> presing....
[02:23] <+Plexust> yep
[02:24] <+sike1> even pressing...
[02:24] <@Eklektikos> warned you about my vocabulary... :-p
[02:24] <@Eklektikos> nothing to report
[02:24] <+sike1> you're turning American
[02:25] <@Eklektikos> ARGH!!!!!
[02:25] <@Eklektikos> don't even say that :-p
[02:25] <+sike1> sorry
[02:25] <@Eklektikos> ;-)
[02:25] <+Plexust> yay America!
[02:25] <+eyrei> lol
[02:25] <@Eklektikos> moving units...
[02:25] <@Chieftess> haha
[02:26] <+_spy> :roll:
[02:26] <@Chieftess> Yeah, I mean, we've got Britain's queen singing our national anthem. :)
[02:26] <@Eklektikos> lol, she's german anyway...
[02:26] <+_spy> :scared:
[02:27] <+eyrei> so what turn are we on now?
[02:27] <@Eklektikos> turn 7
[02:27] <+sike1> 7?
[02:27] <+eyrei> eek
[02:27] <+eyrei> you were on turn 7 when i went to take a shower, and now i am back...
[02:27] <@Chieftess> Maybe the my family's duke ancestor is related!? :-)
[02:27] <+sike1> that was last turn chat, eyrei
[02:27] <+eyrei> hehe
[02:28] <+Plexust> this game is slowly turning into demogame 1
[02:28] <@Chieftess> German ancestor
[02:28] <@Eklektikos> more gems found next to the others... looks like the motherlode
[02:28] <+_spy> oo I found teh prefect winamp smilie!
[02:28] <@Chieftess> How's that?
[02:28] <+sike1> cool
[02:28] <+CivGeneral> :) More Lux
[02:28] <+Plexust> cool
[02:28] <@Chieftess> Let's claim our northern lands! :D
[02:29] <@Chieftess> To quote from demogame1.
[02:29] <@Chieftess> We pretty much did that by game's end.
[02:29] <+sike1> yep
[02:29] <+CivGeneral> true
[02:29] <+sike1> we were bad
[02:29] <+eyrei> that game was a slaughter
[02:29] <+eyrei> i doubt this one will be
[02:29] <@Chieftess> It's too fast to be a slaughter.
[02:30] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 7
[02:30] <@Eklektikos> 1625BC, 306 gold, 2 gpt, Writing in 26 turns
[02:30] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/7/2
[02:30] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 3, Growth in 1, Warrior in 1
[02:30] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 1, Growth in 3, Granary in 13
[02:30] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 10, Spearman in 4
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[02:30] *** ChanServ 4[voices] ThePenguin
[02:30] <@Eklektikos> wb peng
[02:30] <+ThePenguin> back
[02:30] <+_spy> Baravaria grows next truns...
[02:30] <+_spy> wb
[02:30] <+ThePenguin> i miss anything?
[02:30] <+_spy> 2 turns :s
[02:30] <+Plexust> new land?
[02:30] <@Chieftess> Make sure Bavaria is happy going into the next turn.
[02:30] <+ThePenguin> yea
[02:31] <@Eklektikos> bavaria will be happy, due to building the warrior
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[02:31] <+ThePenguin> yes
[02:31] <+ThePenguin> for once, a deputy is doing something
[02:31] <+ThePenguin> no offense to strider or anything,
[02:31] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[02:31] <+_spy> hi koc
[02:31] <+CivGeneral> Yes, Please
[02:31] <+sike1> please
[02:32] <+King_of_Camelot> hi
[02:32] <+CivGeneral> Hi KoC
[02:32] <+ThePenguin> but when i was his deputy (other then going power hungry) i did nothing but write that chart for what tech is under what part
[02:32] <+ThePenguin> hey
[02:32] <@Eklektikos> pressing...
[02:32] <+ThePenguin> who here would eat at the Fanatikan Pizzarea?
[02:32] <+sike1> you?
[02:33] <@Eklektikos> bavara grows to size 4 and continues warriors
[02:33] <+sike1> me ?
[02:33] <+ThePenguin> yea, i no, in #demogame_rpg
[02:33] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria, too
[02:33] <+ThePenguin> okay
[02:33] <+ThePenguin> how many turns?
[02:33] <+ThePenguin> 4 warrior
[02:34] <@Eklektikos> 2
[02:34] <+ThePenguin> k
[02:34] <+eyrei> alright, i am going out drinking
[02:34] <+eyrei> good luck
[02:34] <+_spy> cya
[02:34] <@Eklektikos> have fun :-)
[02:34] <+sike1> can we do some massive upgrading?
[02:34] <+Plexust> bye eyrei
[02:34] <+sike1> cya eyrei
[02:34] <@Chieftess> bye
[02:34] <+ThePenguin> bye
[02:35] <@Eklektikos> no hope for massive simultaneous upgrading... 
[02:36] <+CivGeneral> lol
[02:36] <+sike1> can we adjust the sci/lux rate?
[02:36] <@Eklektikos> checking
[02:36] <+ThePenguin> can we?
[02:36] <+sike1> we've got 308? gold
[02:36] <@Eklektikos> 308, yes
[02:36] <+ThePenguin> okay
[02:37] <+sike1> where's donsig?
[02:37] <+Plexust> can we get some settlers? i'm gonna go crazy if we don't... sorry, i'm a compulsive builder 
[02:37] <+Plexust> :D
[02:37] <@Eklektikos> nope... science slider cmpletely ineffectual
[02:37] <+sike1> k
[02:38] <+ThePenguin> k
[02:38] <@Chieftess> Yes, Bavaria needs to build settlers. :-)
[02:38] <+Plexust> and we are a scientific civ?
[02:38] <+ThePenguin> yup
[02:38] <@Eklektikos> however... if I move the new warrior one tile along the road to morgana we can check the lux slider then
[02:38] <@Eklektikos> so, moving that warrior
[02:38] <+sike1> no settlers in bavaria yet
[02:39] <+Plexust> *turns on a light as it is getting dark*
[02:39] <+CivGeneral> lol
[02:40] <@Eklektikos> ok, with lux slider as it is Bavaria will be unhappy without a second unit as garrison
[02:40] <+sike1> time to connect that road
[02:40] <+Plexust> with morgana?
[02:40] <+ThePenguin> or w/ spice?
[02:40] <+sike1> and spice
[02:40] <+_spy> I want a screen!
[02:41] <@Eklektikos> if we up lux slider to 30% bavaria will be happy, but gpt will drop to 1
[02:41] <+sike1> that's ok
[02:41] <+CivGeneral> Hmm. Should we?
[02:41] <+sike1> we're rich
[02:41] <+ThePenguin> dunno
[02:41] <+Plexust> i don't think so
[02:41] <+ThePenguin> same
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[02:42] <+_spy> wb
[02:42] <+Plexust> hi falcon
[02:42] <@Eklektikos> so either we keep the warrior there as garrison and keep lux slider as is, or we up slider and send warrior off to be upgraded
[02:42] <+Plexust> keep the soldier there
[02:42] <+sike1> upgrade
[02:42] <+Padma> keep him there for MP
[02:42] <+CivGeneral> I beleve that the Warrior should be upgraded
[02:42] <+ThePenguin> ywa
[02:43] <+ThePenguin> same
[02:44] <@Eklektikos> ok... I'll send it off for upgrade and up the lux slider
[02:45] <+Plexust> ok...
[02:45] <+ThePenguin> k
[02:45] <+ThePenguin> then when another is built, down the lux
[02:45] <+Plexust> well, i g2g eat
[02:45] <+Plexust> bye
[02:45] <@Falcon02> yeah.. we're upgrading
[02:45] <+sike1> cya
[02:45] <@Falcon02> see ya Plexus
[02:45] <@Eklektikos> bye
[02:45] * @Chieftess is going back and forth between the demogame and Firaxis chat...
[02:45] <@Falcon02> Firaxis chat?
[02:45] * @Chieftess nearly has 2 hours done! (1/2 complete!)
[02:45] <@Chieftess> The questions and answers
[02:45] <@Falcon02> ohh
[02:46] <@Eklektikos> upgrading another warrior....
[02:46] <@Falcon02> organizing the logs?
[02:46] <+CivGeneral> :D
[02:46] <@Eklektikos> exploring around Aztec borders....
[02:48] <@Eklektikos> looking at cities....
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[02:48] <+Thunderfall> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
[02:48] <+sike1> hey TF
[02:48] <+CivGeneral> Hi TF
[02:48] <+_spy> hi tf
[02:48] *** Falcon02 4[ops] Thunderfall
[02:48] <@Thunderfall> 12° I got the Powwa stick! 12°
[02:48] <@Eklektikos> yikes... admin invasion! :-)
[02:49] <@Chieftess> haha
[02:49] <@Thunderfall> so this is the secret dungeon..  :D
[02:49] <@Falcon02> I think we can trust TF as an Op in here ;-)
[02:49] <+CivGeneral> True
[02:49] <@Eklektikos> I dunno... he looks disruptive to me... ;-)_
[02:49] <@Thunderfall> what?  Falcon and Eklek are Ops here!?
[02:49] <+_spy> lol weve been stuck in here for 3 weeks
[02:49] <@Falcon02> :-)
[02:49] <@Chieftess> Here's disorganizer's #rebelpub ....
[02:49] <@Chieftess> game rules...
[02:49] <@Thunderfall> I assume all of you are high ranking gov't officials, eh?  :D
[02:49] <@Falcon02> Dis created this and I was one of the first ops in here
[02:49] <@Chieftess> and dis had Falcon as an op origanally.
[02:49] <+sike1> not I
[02:49] <@Falcon02> I'm not anymore
[02:50] <+_spy> nore moi
[02:50] <@Thunderfall> haha
[02:50] <+ThePenguin> im out
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[02:50] <@Falcon02> but Eklektikos is the Pres... so he get's op powers
[02:50] <+King_of_Camelot> i'm just a spectator :)
[02:50] <@Thunderfall> no one is in rebelpub...
[02:50] <@Chieftess> Including a powwa stick of his own!
[02:50] <+CivGeneral> If Octavian X was here he would also have the op powers :)
[02:50] <@Chieftess> It's usually filled when disorganizer is here...
[02:51] <@Thunderfall> I'll come back later.... have fun chatting. :)
[02:51] <+sike1> cya
[02:51] <@Falcon02> see ya TF
[02:51] <@Eklektikos> bye TF
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[02:51] <@Chieftess> You should see the RPG forum. ;)
[02:51] <@Falcon02> too late
[02:51] <+_spy> *yawns*
[02:52] <@Eklektikos> probably a good thing.... might close the demogame fora for overloading his server,....
[02:52] <@Eklektikos> ;-)
[02:52] <@Chieftess> Or the RPG forum.
[02:52] <@Chieftess> Then Shaitan would lose half his posts! :)
[02:52] <@Eklektikos> lol
[02:52] <+CivGeneral> lol
[02:52] <@Eklektikos> ok... where was I....?
[02:53] <@Chieftess> yes, where were we?
[02:53] <+_spy> who knows :s
[02:53] <+sike1> pressing...
[02:53] <@Chieftess> matters...
[02:53] <@Chieftess> hehe
[02:53] <+sike1> :)
[02:54] <+CivGeneral> Looking at cities
[02:54] <@Eklektikos> ah yes
[02:55] <@Eklektikos> so should we halt the growth of Bavaria for now and give the game tile to Morgana for now?
[02:55] <+sike1> good luck
[02:55] <+_spy> yeah
[02:55] <+_spy> cos bv is like a 4
[02:55] <+_spy> right
[02:55] <@Eklektikos> yep
[02:56] <+CivGeneral> Sounds good :)
[02:56] <+_spy> better to have 2 well devolped then 20 poorly devolped cities
[02:56] <+donsig> yeah
[02:56] <@Eklektikos> as there's at least some support...
[02:57] <@Eklektikos> Spot Council Vote: Shall we allow Morgana to work the game tile?
[02:57] <@Eklektikos> Citizen, even
[02:57] <@Eklektikos> bugger
[02:58] <+_spy> Yea
[02:58] <+CivGeneral> yes
[02:58] <+Padma> yes
[02:58] <@Chieftess> yes
[02:59] <+_spy> Suprised the consitution doesnt state that you must say 'yea' or 'nay' ;)
[02:59] <@Chieftess> Be sure to move the remaining tile to another forest square, or ocean
[02:59] <@Eklektikos> vote = yes
[02:59] <@Eklektikos> Don't give Shaitan ideas, spy... ;-)
[02:59] <@Chieftess> haha
[03:00] <+_spy> :p
[03:00] <+_spy> he's not here no worries
[03:00] <+sike1> do it mr. president
[03:00] <@Chieftess> He can read the log...
[03:00] <@Eklektikos> and probably does...
[03:00] <+_spy> :scared:
[03:00] <+_spy> who's logging this?!
[03:00] <@Chieftess> Post a message here, like... "pm me if you see this message!"
[03:01] <@Eklektikos> lol
[03:01] <@Eklektikos> I'm logging it
[03:01] <+_spy> stop it! :p
[03:01] <@Eklektikos> well I could... but I don't like the taste of PI....
[03:01] <@Eklektikos> :-p
[03:02] <@Eklektikos> 6 yes votes = motion passes
[03:02] <+_spy> PI= i know some court martial thing right?
[03:02] <+donsig> what did we just vote on?
[03:03] <+_spy> :lol:
[03:03] <@Eklektikos> donsig appears at the mention of PIs...
[03:03] <+sike1> tile swapping in morgana
[03:03] <+donsig> hehe
[03:03] <+donsig> I was busy with DFZ paperwork
[03:03] <+_spy> which is......?
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[03:04] <+donsig> talking to me spy?
[03:04] <+_spy> What is PI abbriviate?!
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[03:05] *** Set by Eklektikos on Fri Oct 04 01:21:57
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[03:05] <+Eklektikos-Away> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
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[03:05] <@Chieftess> ?
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[03:06] <@Eklektikos> 12° I got the powwa stick! 12°
[03:06] <+_spy> :ack:
[03:06] * @Chieftess looks around... confused...
[03:06] <@Eklektikos> dial-up = belly-up
[03:06] <+_spy> Is that some trill thing about the power stick and nifty _ symbol?
[03:06] <@Eklektikos> DarkStyle
[03:06] <@Chieftess> Dark Style Pro II
[03:06] <+_spy> aaa
[03:07] <@Eklektikos> right
[03:07] <+CivGeneral> lol
[03:07] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 8
[03:07] <@Eklektikos> 1600BC, 268 gold, 2 gpt, Writing in 25 turns
[03:07] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/6/3
[03:07] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 4, Growth in --, Warrior in 2
[03:07] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 1, Growth in 2, Granary in 12
[03:07] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 5, Spearman in 3
[03:07] <+_spy> I still didnt get how to connect to irc with trill
[03:07] <+_spy> hmmmmm
[03:07] <@Eklektikos> wouldn't botherm spy.... it's not very nice
[03:07] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[03:08] <+CivGeneral> Yes, Please
[03:09] <@Eklektikos> anyone else care to participate in the covering of my rear by saying "yes"?
[03:09] <+_spy> yeah go ahead
[03:10] <+_spy> now Im sorry but shatain who ever you are idf you are reading this, thats ridiclous
[03:10] <+_spy> gtg
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[03:10] <@Eklektikos> pressing....
[03:11] <+Padma> sorry I'm late - but "yes"
[03:11] <@Eklektikos> hehe
[03:11] <+Padma> (I was chatting with TF in #civfanatics)
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[03:13] <@Eklektikos> nothing to report...
[03:13] <+CivGeneral> k
[03:14] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 9
[03:14] <@Eklektikos> 1600BC, 270 gold, 2 gpt, Writing in 24 turns
[03:14] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/6/3
[03:14] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 4, Growth in --, Warrior in 1
[03:14] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 1, Growth in 1, Granary in 11
[03:14] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 4, Spearman in 2
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