Session Start: Wed Oct 09 21:59:18 2002
* Logging #demogame to 'c:\my documents\#demogame.log'
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[22:00] <+FortyJ> hello all
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[22:02] <+ThePenguin> hi
[22:02] <+ThePenguin> donsig- please post queue instructions
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[22:02] <+donsig> where's the top dog?
[22:02] <@Eklektikos> hi donsig
[22:02] <+donsig> hi
[22:02] <+ThePenguin> hasnt signed on yet
[22:02] <+ThePenguin> usually gets on a t 5-530
[22:03] <+ThePenguin> ekle- time to start?
[22:03] <@Eklektikos> yup, just about :-)
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[22:03] <+ThePenguin> civ
[22:03] <+CivGeneral> Hi
[22:03] <+ThePenguin> please post your plan overviews
[22:04] <+CivGeneral> I am already on it :)
[22:04] <+ThePenguin> k
[22:04] <@Eklektikos> read my comments in the military dept thread, CivGeneral?
[22:04] <+ThePenguin> cause if u n donsig post, we can start
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[22:04] <+ThePenguin> im representing zarn
[22:05] <+ThePenguin> hey octavian
[22:05] <+ThePenguin> if he dosent show up
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[22:05] <@Eklektikos> Octavian_X... just the man I was hoping to see here tonight :-)
[22:05] <+CivGeneral> I have read the comment Eklektios.
[22:05] <@Octavian_X> hmm... why?
[22:06] <@Eklektikos> because I may need you to take over if this chat goes on too long... if that's ok?
[22:06] <@Octavian_X> how long is too long?
[22:07] <@Eklektikos> more than an hour and a half
[22:07] <@Octavian_X> we'll see.  my mom is throwing a birthday party tonight
[22:08] <@Eklektikos> d'oh
[22:08] * +CivGeneral Has finished posting the instructions
[22:08] * @Eklektikos makes with the refreshing
[22:09] <@Octavian_X> not to worry, is hould be able to make it.
[22:09] * +CivGeneral hopes that there is no netsplit tonight.
[22:09] <+ThePenguin> n next on COC is domestic
[22:09] <+ThePenguin> and my copy of windows civ hasnt come in yet
[22:10] <@Octavian_X> nope, next is CG
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[22:10] <+ThePenguin> i though domestic was after vp
[22:10] <+ThePenguin> makes sense, though
[22:10] <+CivGeneral> :D, And luckly I just poped in my CivIII CD just now.
[22:10] <@Eklektikos> only leaders
[22:10] <@Octavian_X> your the deputy, which puts you under everybody else
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[22:10] <+SKILORD> hey!
[22:10] <+SKILORD> T/C?
[22:10] <@Octavian_X> greetigns
[22:11] <+CivGeneral> Hi Skilord
[22:11] <+ThePenguin> k
[22:11] <@Eklektikos> right, well since we now appear to have all the instructions (except trade), we can begin :-)
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[22:12] <@Eklektikos> Culture:
[22:12] <@Eklektikos> The best advice I can give from the Culture Department at this time is to continue with the plans/advice of the other Departments. I have followed their discussions, and concur with them.
[22:12] <@Eklektikos> Foreign Affairs:
[22:12] <@Eklektikos> Such a great turn chat time and I won't be able to attend!! I have a student council metting. But anyway, same as Padma, continue what is being done, concerning tech trades, what ever science and trade agree with the Ministry accepts it.
[22:12] <@Eklektikos> Ehecatl Atzin
[22:12] <+SKILORD> I'm here!@
[22:12] <@Eklektikos> Domestic:
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> Keep the Lux/Sci the same
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> worker E Valhalla- create a road and mine SW of town
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> Reason- improving terrain
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> worker SW of Bavaria- build road towards Tlaxcala or first target Aztec city, until warrior upgrade plan is over. Reason- easy movement for troops during and after war.
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> Unless the gov states his own queues, use these ones:
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria- Warriors. We can't keep the capital with 2 unhappy people.
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> Morgana- finish spear, make swords.
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla- keep current queue
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> If CivGeneral feels that the army is large enough at any time during this chat, start building temples in the towns.
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> Keep people at least content
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> Any objections?
[22:13] <+ThePenguin> can we see what trades are do-able?
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> we can indeed
[22:13] <+ThePenguin> give us what we can trade
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> let me finish with the instructions first.. I'll only lose the place otherwise
[22:13] <@Eklektikos> ;-)
[22:14] <@Eklektikos> Fanatikan Department of Defense Turn Instructions
[22:14] <@Eklektikos> Using the map on the Military Department. as a guide. Note thease are last minute changes so ignore the arrows.
[22:14] <@Eklektikos> 1. Move one of the archers near Tlaxcala into its borders while the other groups up with the archer on the mountans near Tenochtitlan.
[22:14] <@Eklektikos> 2. Move the other two archers into the borders of the Aztecs for recon. Then have them regroup to the other archers near Tlaxcala.
[22:14] <@Eklektikos> 3. The archers near Tenochtitlan should move onto the mountan and fortify.
[22:14] <@Eklektikos> FNSD
[22:14] <@Eklektikos> Continue researching writing. If an opportunity arises to acquire horseback riding without spending gold, sieze said opportunity. Since writing is 24 turns away there seems to be no need to worry about what to research next.
[22:14] <@Eklektikos> no trade instructions and once again no provincial instructions
[22:15] <@Eklektikos> ok, checking up on potential trades
[22:16] <+ThePenguin> hmm... neutral leader is not a fine provincial governor
[22:16] <+ThePenguin> well, AJs back so we can expect greatness again
[22:16] <+CivGeneral> He keeps on saying he is a "Good and Reponsible Govenor". Ill remind him the next time.
[22:17] <@Eklektikos> no viable trades at this time, SAaM
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[22:17] <+ThePenguin> awww
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[22:18] <@Eklektikos> hey CT
[22:18] <@Chieftess> hi
[22:18] <+CivGeneral> Hi Cheftess
[22:18] <+ThePenguin> hey
[22:18] <@Eklektikos> any trade instructions you'd like to impart?
[22:18] <@Octavian_X> greeetings
[22:18] <@Eklektikos> not that there are any trades to be made...
[22:19] <@Chieftess> true... I also haven't been on the computer much (except for leaving the chat window open) since I was sick the past few days.
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[22:19] <+ThePenguin> as your sn stated
[22:19] <+donsig> ok then press enter
[22:19] <@Chieftess> I can check quickly, though (not that there will be any...)
[22:19] <@Eklektikos> just checked them myself
[22:20] <@Eklektikos> just asking for the sake of form, really ;-)
[22:20] <@Chieftess> :)
[22:20] <+gunning1> wait, has it started?
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[22:21] <+ThePenguin> hey
[22:21] <+ThePenguin> not yet
[22:21] <@Eklektikos> ok... since no preturn changes were made I see no point in uploading a pre-turn save this time... any objections to this?
[22:21] <+eyrei> ok, there they all are
[22:21] <+ThePenguin> goin through pt
[22:21] <+gunning1> ok
[22:21] <@Octavian_X> actually, i'd better go...
[22:21] <@Chieftess> well, lemme check the trades real quick (not that there are any..)
[22:21] <@Eklektikos> bye Octavian
[22:21] <@Octavian_X> i'll be back later just in case Ek. still needs me.
[22:21] <@Chieftess> I've been sick and haven't had a chance too...
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[22:22] <+ThePenguin> we no
[22:22] <@Chieftess> nope, none officially. ;) They're all broke.
[22:23] <+eyrei> lets keep them that way
[22:23] <@Eklektikos> right
[22:23] <@Eklektikos> so
[22:23] <+ThePenguin> lets begin then
[22:23] <+ThePenguin> we have trade, science, military and domestic here
[22:23] <+ThePenguin> decent turn out
[22:23] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 0
[22:24] <+gunning1> so now its starting?
[22:24] <+CivGeneral> *Dark clous sworm over the land scape*
[22:24] <@Eklektikos> stats as per end of last t/c
[22:24] <@Eklektikos> yup, it's starting
[22:24] <@Eklektikos> pressing enter
[22:25] * +CivGeneral looks over the horizon
[22:25] <@Chieftess> We're going to war this turn!? :p
[22:25] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria continues warriors
[22:25] <@Chieftess> Eklektikos - Keep the General away from the button. ;) Um, wait.. we have no button.
[22:25] <@Eklektikos> haven't invented buttons yet, thank goodness
[22:25] <@Eklektikos> ;-)
[22:25] <@Eklektikos> moving units...
[22:25] <+CivGeneral> What button :p
[22:25] <+gunning1> and im going to play Animal Crossing soon
[22:26] <+gunning1> so......bye
[22:26] <+CivGeneral> Bye Gunning1
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[22:27] <@Eklektikos> upgrading another warrior...
[22:27] <@Chieftess> So, the swords begin.
[22:27] <+CivGeneral> Keep sending them swordsmen to the Aztec border
[22:27] <@Chieftess> The smitys must be pretty busy.
[22:28] <@Chieftess> *smithys
[22:28] <@Chieftess> sword-smiths.
[22:28] <+ThePenguin> there getting business
[22:28] <+CivGeneral> Its a busy time for the blacksmiths ;)
[22:29] <@Chieftess> So, how goes our war funds? :)
[22:29] <+ThePenguin> civ- trader warrior has made a threat on the hq
[22:29] <+ThePenguin> Boom!!! suddently a large part of the military departement blows up in the air so all the people of bavaria could see it "look fireworks!" a little boy said "no son we havent invented gunpowder yet" the father said.at the crime scean the police(or whatever it is) says to civgeneral that the bomb was made from the boompowder you can buy at S&M and other stuff that can blow up.suddently a arrow when
[22:29] <@Chieftess> stuck! Keep it to #civfanatics. :)
[22:29] <+ThePenguin> through the air and hits the leftowers of the military departement,it has a letter on it, it said:HAHAHA if you mess with the great aztecs you mess with trader/warrior!PS.i have more boompowder!
[22:29] <+ThePenguin> sry
[22:29] <@Chieftess> stuck!
[22:30] <+CivGeneral> Stuck!
[22:30] <+ThePenguin> sry...
[22:30] <+ThePenguin> in rpg, i no
[22:30] <+ThePenguin> n thx god u dun have the powa stick on
[22:30] <@Chieftess> How do you know I don't? ;)
[22:31] <@Chieftess> See that light under my cloak?
[22:31] <+CivGeneral> lol, Not again with the Powa stick
[22:31] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 1
[22:31] <@Eklektikos> 1550BC, 232 gold, 2 gpt, Writing in 23 turns
[22:31] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/6/3
[22:31] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 4, Growth in --, warrior in 2
[22:31] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 2, Growth in 7, Granary in 6
[22:31] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 3, Spearman in 1
[22:31] <+ThePenguin> the aztec have incense, dont they?
[22:31] <@Chieftess> yes
[22:31] <@Eklektikos> yep, they do
[22:31] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
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[22:32] <@Chieftess> I put it in my resource assessment.
[22:32] <+ThePenguin> yea
[22:32] <+ThePenguin> hey TFZ
[22:32] <+thefrenchzulu> hello
[22:32] <@Eklektikos> pressing enter....
[22:32] <+ThePenguin> *fanfare*
[22:33] <@Chieftess> ?
[22:33] <@Chieftess> Just make sure everyone's happy/ content....
[22:33] <@Eklektikos> apologising to monty for sending troops over his border...
[22:33] <@Eklektikos> ;-)
[22:34] <+ThePenguin> yea, thats right
[22:34] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Spearman --> Swordsman
[22:34] <+CivGeneral> we are umm. cunducting a routen training mission.
[22:34] <+ThePenguin> civ-40js tactical map :
[22:34] <+ThePenguin> http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/tactical-1575bc.jpg
[22:34] <@Eklektikos> upgrading morgana's old garrison...
[22:35] <+ThePenguin> k
[22:37] * +CivGeneral wonders how 40j did that
[22:37] * @Eklektikos 1,4[ 8,4News Flash1,4 ] Fanatikan archers finally get a glimpse of Tenochtitlan. City is size 2 and build on plains.
[22:37] <@Eklektikos> built, too
[22:37] <@Eklektikos> ;-)
[22:37] <+CivGeneral> Whats its garrison stength
[22:38] <+ThePenguin> brb, helpin sm1 in cfc chatroom
[22:38] <+CivGeneral> at Tenochtitlan?
[22:38] <+eyrei> no build queues?!!!!!what is so bloody hard about posting build queues?!!!!
[22:38] <+donsig> are our archers concentrating?
[22:38] <@Eklektikos> I see only one spearman
[22:38] <+eyrei> sorry
[22:38] <+ThePenguin> just think of it like this- AJ's Back from RL
[22:38] <@Eklektikos> no worries eyrei.. I know how you feel ;-)
[22:39] * +CivGeneral does some calculations
[22:39] <@Eklektikos> our archers are working on concentrating, yes donsig
[22:40] <@Chieftess> eyrei - maybe you could offer an um... "incentive" if one doesn't post build queues. ;-)
[22:40] <+ThePenguin> ie- scare him with banning
[22:41] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 2
[22:41] <@Eklektikos> 1525BC, 194 gold, 1 gpt, Writing in 22 turns
[22:41] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/6/3
[22:41] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 4, Growth in --, warrior in 1
[22:41] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 2, Growth in 6, Granary in 5
[22:41] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 2, Swordsman in 10
[22:42] <+eyrei> it is tempting, ct
[22:42] <@Eklektikos> checking citizen happiness quickly
[22:42] <+eyrei> i could start a PI....
[22:42] <@Chieftess> But against who? :)
[22:42] <+eyrei> the governor, who else?
[22:42] <@Chieftess> but if he's not here... 
[22:42] <+CivGeneral> I have posted a reminder to him
[22:42] <+ThePenguin> we could
[22:42] <@Eklektikos> all cities stable
[22:42] <+CivGeneral> :)
[22:42] <+eyrei> then he is found guilty, and removed from office
[22:42] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[22:43] <+CivGeneral> yes. A question, are the swordsmen moving to the Aztec borders?
[22:43] <+ThePenguin> yes
[22:43] <+ThePenguin> zarns comming
[22:43] <+CivGeneral> Just checking ;)
[22:43] <@Eklektikos> yes, swordsmen are heading towards out victims *cough* neighbours
[22:44] <@Chieftess> There's one asleep in the town (a warrior) did you wake him up?
[22:44] <@Eklektikos> yup
[22:44] <@Eklektikos> that was morgana's garrison, right?
[22:44] * @Eklektikos answers himself in the affirmative
[22:44] <@Eklektikos> ok
[22:44] <@Eklektikos> pressing enter
[22:45] <+donsig> press away
[22:45] <+ThePenguin> *fanfare, again*
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[22:45] <@Eklektikos> archers being teleported out of aztec territory by a grumpy monty...
[22:45] <+eyrei> there will be war soon...
[22:46] <+CivGeneral> >:( Monty. Thats it I am taking his Chocolate cup
[22:46] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria continues warriors
[22:46] <+Zarn1> thought this was later, but I guess I was wrong
[22:46] <+eyrei> same here zarn
[22:46] <@Chieftess> ready to write a good war story donsig?
[22:47] <+ThePenguin> we startin now?
[22:47] * @Eklektikos 1,4[ 8,4News Flash1,4 ] bavaria's cultural influence expands. Spices are seen changing hands on street corners!
[22:47] <@Chieftess> It's just the build up.
[22:47] <@Chieftess> yeah! :)
[22:47] <+CivGeneral> :D
[22:47] <+ThePenguin> yes
[22:47] <@Chieftess> me... trade... spices... :)
[22:47] <+ThePenguin> ct- bring in the spice traders guild
[22:47] <+CivGeneral> Now all I need is Monty's Chocolate.
[22:47] <@Chieftess> haha
[22:48] <@Chieftess> that was supposed to be a list... not a sentence. :)
[22:48] <@Chieftess> spiced hot chocolate..
[22:48] <+CivGeneral> And like Robin hood, Give all the Aztec Chocolate to the citizens of Fanatika. :D
[22:48] <+Zarn1> remember that I am willing to discuss Domestic issues. No one ever post in the Domestic thread though
[22:48] <+ThePenguin> yup
[22:48] <+ThePenguin> thats y i bumped it
[22:48] <@Eklektikos> Tenochtitlan's territory has also expanded. now a three turn trek up to the city gates from the borders
[22:48] <+ThePenguin> okay
[22:49] <@Chieftess> Just make sure there's no jags in the area... (and our area)
[22:49] <+ThePenguin> CFC Question- is the AI programed to accept the first MPP it gets?
[22:49] <@Chieftess> I don't know. You'd have to ask Soren. ;)
[22:49] <+ThePenguin> ok
[22:49] <+donsig> more land available to buy!
[22:50] <+ThePenguin> yes!
[22:50] <+eyrei> excellent...
[22:50] * @Eklektikos 1,4[ 8,4News Flash1,4 ] Japanese borders sighted
[22:50] <+donsig> which direction?
[22:50] <@Eklektikos> beyond the mountains to the west
[22:50] <+ThePenguin> yeaa
[22:51] <+eyrei> NW?
[22:51] <+eyrei> above the aztecs?
[22:51] <+ThePenguin> well have a great new map after tonight
[22:51] <@Eklektikos> almost due west from bavaria
[22:51] <+eyrei> hmmm
[22:51] <+Zarn1> speaking of maps, we need some good border proposals
[22:51] <+ThePenguin> so what was going to be our fur trapping area is the home of the japanese?
[22:51] <+eyrei> maybe we could drag  them into a war against the aztecs after our initial strike
[22:52] <+ThePenguin> no, dun sugest that
[22:52] <+ThePenguin> it means take it to the fourms
[22:52] <+eyrei> we haven't declared war yet, have we?
[22:52] <+ThePenguin> not yet
[22:52] <+ThePenguin> but we are allowed to, by public majority
[22:52] <+eyrei> well, we need to take the cities we want and then let the japanese fight them
[22:53] <+eyrei> not before
[22:53] <+CivGeneral> We are still conducting... ...Umm, a training mission over there.
[22:53] <+ThePenguin> Zarn- im here to remind you about lowering the luxury rate
[22:54] <+CivGeneral> That is, if the spices are connected. :)
[22:54] * @Chieftess has Returned (Been gone 1hr 58mins 4secs)
[22:54] <+ThePenguin> are they?
[22:54] <+Zarn1> Yes, can be lower the trate Mr. Prez so people are content not too happy
[22:54] <+ThePenguin> here is what CG wrote:Just checking Zarn . I just had a idea , when the spices are connected. It would be possible to lower the lux rate to its possible threshold when every one is happy and/or content (Unless the Lux rate is at 0% . ) and distribute the commerce to both the military and science funds to equal proportions.
[22:55] <+eyrei> it should make one person content or happy
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[22:55] <@Eklektikos> gpt is now 0.....
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[22:55] <+ThePenguin> why?
[22:55] <+donsig> yeah, why?
[22:55] <+eyrei> units
[22:55] <+eyrei> i imagine
[22:55] <@Eklektikos> correct eyrei
[22:55] <+Zarn1> we need to lower the lux. It was changed to 30% or something for some reason
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[22:56] <+ThePenguin> o
[22:56] <@Eklektikos> looking at lux now
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[22:56] <+ThePenguin> hi guests
[22:56] <+CivGeneral> Hi 3 Guests
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[22:56] <+ThePenguin> presumably strider, padma n sm1 else
[22:56] <+Zarn1> hi guests
[22:56] <+ThePenguin> padma and/or strider?
[22:56] <@Eklektikos> can now lower lux to 10% without risking riot
[22:57] <+ThePenguin> okay
[22:57] <+CivGeneral> k
[22:57] <+ThePenguin> and that ups gpt by?
[22:57] <@Eklektikos> gpt = 3
[22:57] <+Zarn1> I will agree to that, but we must keep on eye on the capital
[22:57] <+CivGeneral> We need more gold for the coffers.
[22:57] <+ThePenguin> yea
[22:57] <+ThePenguin> ie- another city
[22:57] <@Eklektikos> the capital is stable, as its growth is curently halted
[22:57] <+eyrei> are we producing a settler somewhere?
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[22:58] <+ThePenguin> if we take another city, our GPT should go up as should our unit support cost go down
[22:58] <+ThePenguin> guest, please identify yourself
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[22:58] <+iguanaman8609> hello all
[22:58] <@Eklektikos> eyrei, it's next in Valhalla's queue
[22:58] <@Chieftess> hi
[22:58] <+CivGeneral> Or we can stunt its growth temporarly. (IE. Gathering enough food to support itself without creating surplus foodstuffs)
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[22:58] <+eyrei> how many turns til it is started?
[22:58] <+ThePenguin> hi GI
[22:58] <+CivGeneral> Hi GI
[22:59] <@Eklektikos> 4 turns
[22:59] <+iguanaman8609> hi
[22:59] <+eyrei> ok
[22:59] <@Chieftess> GI: been reading the trade thread?
[22:59] <+eyrei> just checking
[22:59] * +eyrei doesn't want to die
[22:59] <+iguanaman8609> no, i just got on
[22:59] <+iguanaman8609> i checked it last night though
[22:59] * @Eklektikos doesn't want to either :-p
[22:59] * +ThePenguin feels the same
[22:59] <+Zarn1> I thought the settler was not going to be complete this chat
[23:00] * +CivGeneral feels the same
[23:00] * +ThePenguin same
[23:00] <+ThePenguin> so is it?
[23:00] <@Eklektikos> it isn't going to be
[23:00] <+ThePenguin> o
[23:00] <+iguanaman8609> dont worry, well probably find a new civ
[23:00] <+eyrei> i was just making sure we were making one soon
[23:00] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 3
[23:00] <@Eklektikos> 1525BC, 155 gold, 3 gpt, Writing in 21 turns
[23:00] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/8/1
[23:00] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 4, Growth in --, warrior in 2
[23:00] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 2, Growth in 5, Granary in 4
[23:00] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 1, Swordsman in 9
[23:00] <@Eklektikos> argh
[23:00] <@Eklektikos> ignore
[23:00] <+ThePenguin> are we or are we not declaring war this turn
[23:00] <+iguanaman8609> so how come no one has been buying from the FTP?
[23:00] <+ThePenguin> not.....
[23:01] <+CivGeneral> ..another civ
[23:01] <+ThePenguin> its not..... another....
[23:01] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 3
[23:01] <@Eklektikos> 1500BC, 155 gold, 3 gpt, Writing in 21 turns
[23:01] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/8/1
[23:01] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 4, Growth in --, warrior in 2
[23:01] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 2, Growth in 5, Granary in 4
[23:01] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 1, Growth in 1, Swordsman in 9
[23:01] <+donsig> you haven't even registered the FTP
[23:01] <+ThePenguin> well, is it more advanced then us?
[23:01] <+Zarn1> NL has to post queues. What am I suppose to do, if he keeps this up?
[23:01] <@Eklektikos> that's more like it :-)
[23:01] <+ThePenguin> if not, we dont have to stop
[23:01] <+ThePenguin> ?
[23:01] <@Eklektikos> there's no new civ...
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[23:02] *** Now Talking in #demogame.
[23:02] *** Topic is 'All Hail FANATIKA! Civ3-Demogame-Chatroom. See http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=78 for details'
[23:02] *** Set by Eklektikos on Fri Oct 04 01:21:57
[23:02] *** ChanServ 4[voices] Eklektikos-Away
[23:02] <+Eklektikos-Away> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
[23:03] <+donsig> I thought the FTP was a partnership now
[23:03] * +eyrei asks that the RPG not be discussed during the turn chat in #demogame
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[23:03] <+iguanaman8609> are we gonna assasinate him?
[23:03] <+ThePenguin> ya hear that, donsig? for once, its not you!
[23:03] <+iguanaman8609> pkay, sorry
[23:03] <+Zarn1> Right now my status with NL is annoyed/ furious can't make up my mind
[23:03] <+iguanaman8609> *o
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[23:03] <+donsig> have a beer eyrei
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[23:03] <+eyrei> working on it
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[23:03] *** Eklektikos-Away has 4[morphed] into "Eklektikos"
[23:03] <@Chieftess> uhoh.. :)
[23:03] <+eyrei> here we go...
[23:03] <+CivGeneral> Eklektiko, You droped your powwa stick
[23:03] *** ChanServ 4[ops] Eklektikos
[23:03] <@Eklektikos> 12° I got the powwa stick! 12°
[23:04] <@Eklektikos> ;-)
[23:04] * +Zarn1 shuts up
[23:04] <+eyrei> so odd....
[23:04] <+Zarn1> ???
[23:04] <@Eklektikos> right
[23:04] * +ThePenguin fears the stick
[23:04] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[23:04] <+ThePenguin> yea
[23:04] <+CivGeneral> yes, please
[23:04] <+Zarn1> sure
[23:04] <+iguanaman8609> question: do you guys load the light chat applet? or do you guys use the full onw
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[23:04] <+ThePenguin> o use irc
[23:04] <@Chieftess> I use IRC
[23:05] <@Eklektikos> pressing enter
[23:05] *** Guest99833 has 4[morphed] into "im"
[23:05] <+CivGeneral> I just use the standard Applet java chat
[23:05] <@Chieftess> DarkStylePro2 - thus the powwa stick.
[23:05] <+im> i am the great iguanman
[23:05] <+im> good old new window button
[23:05] <+ThePenguin> im, if your dual logging, watch out
[23:05] <+CivGeneral> IG, Your "Iguanaman8609" is still present ;)
[23:05] <+im> how do i change mu nickname?
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[23:05] <+CivGeneral> use /nick <name here>
[23:06] <+eyrei> there it went
[23:06] <@Chieftess> there. now it's his usable nick.
[23:06] <+im> ok, now theres just me
[23:06] <@Eklektikos> hmm... elite jag spotted near Valhalla
[23:06] <+ThePenguin> are they prepared?
[23:06] * +CivGeneral keeps am eye on that jag
[23:07] * @Eklektikos keeps pm eye on that jag
[23:07] <+im> how do i rechange my nickname?
[23:07] <+CivGeneral> That jag better not come in Our borders
[23:07] * @Chieftess keeps an eye on that jag
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[23:07] <+CivGeneral> IG. Type in /nick IG
[23:07] * +Zarn1 is keeping on eye on a cookie
[23:07] <@Chieftess> poor GI. :)
[23:07] <@Chieftess> CFC cookie? :)
[23:07] * +ThePenguin vants zee jag dead
[23:08] <+ThePenguin> dead, i tells ya!
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[23:08] <+Zarn1> Penguins! they are always trouble
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[23:08] <+ThePenguin> yup
[23:08] <+iguanaman8609> hello???
[23:09] <+iguanaman8609> i cant see anything
[23:09] * +CivGeneral hopes there is adiquate defenses in Vallhalla
[23:09] <@Chieftess> we're here.
[23:09] <+iguanaman8609> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[23:09] * +ThePenguin agrees with CG
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[23:09] <+Zarn1> What unit protects the town of Vallhalla
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[23:09] <+CivGeneral> A spearmen
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[23:09] <@Chieftess> We heard you GI. :)
[23:09] <+eyrei> good
[23:09] <+iguanaman8609> lkbnjkfeqw
[23:10] <+iguanaman8609> can anyone see this?
[23:10] <+Zarn1> No GI, it's my cookie
[23:10] <@Chieftess> yes
[23:10] <+eyrei> yes
[23:10] <+CivGeneral> yes
[23:10] <+iguanaman8609> i cant see anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[23:10] <@Eklektikos> oh, forgot to mention that Morgana grew to size 2
[23:10] <+ThePenguin> yay!
[23:10] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 4
[23:10] <@Eklektikos> 1475BC, 158 gold, 4 gpt, Writing in 20 turns
[23:10] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/8/1
[23:10] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 4, Growth in --, warrior in 1
[23:10] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 2, Growth in 4, Granary in 3
[23:10] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 2, Growth in 20, Swordsman in 5
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[23:10] * +CivGeneral hopes masonry is comming
[23:10] <@Eklektikos> press enter?
[23:10] <+CivGeneral> yes
[23:10] <+ThePenguin> yea
[23:11] <@Chieftess> yes
[23:11] <+Zarn1> yes
[23:11] <@Eklektikos> pressing...
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[23:11] <@Eklektikos> Jag remains in Valhalla area
[23:11] <@Chieftess> GI - use mirc. or Dark Style Pro 2
[23:11] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria continues warriors
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[23:12] <+CivGeneral> Must be a bad day for GI. :)
[23:12] * @Eklektikos 1,4[ 8,4News Flash1,4 ] The first Fanatikan swordsman has arrived at the Aztec border
[23:12] <+ThePenguin> yes!
[23:12] <+CivGeneral> >:D
[23:13] <+CivGeneral> Muahhhaaaa (in a Dr. Evil laugh)
[23:13] * +Zarn1 shakes hands with Eklektikos and CivGeneral
[23:13] <+ThePenguin> when do we start our attacks?
[23:13] <+CivGeneral> The troops are comming
[23:14] * +ThePenguin plays taps on his oboe
[23:14] <@Chieftess> You know, it almost looks like drops of rain coming down from Fanatika to the Aztecs. :) (just feeling poetic)
[23:14] <@Eklektikos> End of turn 5
[23:14] <@Eklektikos> 1450BC, 122 gold, 3 gpt, Writing in 19 turns
[23:14] <@Eklektikos> Sci/Tax/Lux = 1/8/1
[23:14] <@Eklektikos> Bavaria: Size = 4, Growth in --, warrior in 2
[23:14] <@Eklektikos> Valhalla: Size = 2, Growth in 3, Granary in 2
[23:14] <@Eklektikos> Morgana: Size = 2, Growth in 19, Swordsman in 4
[23:14] * +Zarn1 shakes hands with eveyoneelse
[23:14] <+donsig> what's the chat room for the rpg?
[23:14] <+ThePenguin> its #demogame_rpg
[23:14] <@Eklektikos> go to #demogame_rpg
[23:14] <@Eklektikos> what, no kicker tonight CT?
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[23:15] <@Eklektikos> ;-)
[23:15] <+eyrei> hehe, donsig, i got my beer...
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[23:15] <+FortyJ> did i miss everything?
[23:15] <@Chieftess> I usually turn it off so it doesn't disrupt the demogame.
[23:15] <@Eklektikos> anyone want to make any changes before I upload the turn 5 save?
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[23:16] <+ThePenguin> hi 40j
[23:16] <+CivGeneral> *wind blows across the grasslands*
[23:16] <+ThePenguin> check for trades
[23:16] <@Chieftess> yes
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[23:16] <@Eklektikos> checking...
[23:16] <+FortyJ> hello penguin
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[23:16] <+iguanaman8609> thaks for the ban!
[23:16] <+ThePenguin> new map comming in soon
[23:16] <@Chieftess> ?
[23:16] <+ThePenguin> ?
[23:16] <+CivGeneral> ?
[23:16] <+iguanaman8609> i got a message saying i was banned
[23:17] <@Chieftess> That was a kick. Completely different than a ban
[23:17] <@Eklektikos> odd...
[23:17] <@Chieftess> Maybe it's the java chat script...
[23:17] <+CivGeneral> That crayzy Java chat script
[23:17] <@Chieftess> There's no one in the ban list here...
[23:17] <+iguanaman8609> well i had to reconnect, reboot, and reload everything
[23:17] <+iguanaman8609> not exactly in that order
[23:17] <@Chieftess> You'll notice once you read the chat log. :)
[23:18] <+iguanaman8609> well whats going on right now?
[23:18] <@Eklektikos> its the universe's way of saying "get a proper IRC client!"
[23:18] <@Eklektikos> ;-)
[23:18] * +Zarn1 smiles at everyone in the room :-)
[23:18] <@Chieftess> Our troops are massing at the border.
[23:18] <+iguanaman8609> excellent
[23:18] * +Zarn1 nods to other leaders
[23:18] <+ThePenguin> yay
[23:18] <@Eklektikos> ok... the indians have writing, and some contacts we can trade for
[23:18] <+iguanaman8609> that was supposed to be in that maniacle way, lik M. Burns
[23:18] <@Chieftess> oh, nice.
[23:19] <+ThePenguin> exact, please
[23:19] <@Eklektikos> we have some contacts that we can trade them
[23:19] <@Chieftess> What turn is it?
[23:19] <@Eklektikos> listing momentarily
[23:19] <@Eklektikos> turn 5
[23:19] <+ThePenguin> donsig- if we get writing, whats next
[23:19] <+CivGeneral> You can say this. Excellent (in a Mr. Burns voice) ;)
[23:19] <+iguanaman8609> i got a go soon, just a warning
[23:19] <+iguanaman8609> that works too
[23:19] <@Eklektikos> they have communications with... wait for it....
[23:19] <@Eklektikos> the Babylonians!
[23:19] <+iguanaman8609> sweet
[23:19] <@Chieftess> !!
[23:19] <@Eklektikos> >:[
[23:20] <+iguanaman8609> i was just studying them
[23:20] <+CivGeneral> No not the Babs
[23:20] <+iguanaman8609> good ol Hammurabi and his good ol code of laws
[23:20] <@Eklektikos> code of laws and domino wars...
[23:20] <+ThePenguin> the babs....
[23:20] <+CivGeneral> The good, The bad, and, the Babs
[23:21] <@Eklektikos> Ghandi does not have contact with either the Americans or the English
[23:21] <+ThePenguin> what do they want?
[23:21] <+ThePenguin> same
[23:21] <@Eklektikos> he will trade contact with the babs for contact with the english
[23:21] <+ThePenguin> ask them to tell me what the hell Gilgamesh is about
[23:21] <+ThePenguin> and writing?
[23:21] <+iguanaman8609> Hammurabi came up with the 'eye for an eye' thing. Also, the babylonians are belived to have greatly influenced the writing of the bible
[23:21] <@Eklektikos> contact with the english and 120 gold
[23:22] <+ThePenguin> leaving us with?
[23:22] <@Eklektikos> or contact with both the english and americans
[23:22] <+iguanaman8609> gilgamesh was a fool. He should have gone back for the plant
[23:22] <+CivGeneral> Whitch would give us more gold?
[23:22] <@Chieftess> English and Americans. We don't want to dig into our war funds.
[23:22] <+ThePenguin> the contact one
[23:22] <+Zarn1> we can't afford to throw gold away
[23:22] <@Chieftess> For writing and babs, right?
[23:22] <@Eklektikos> yep
[23:22] <+FortyJ> will he trade more than just contact with babs for contact with eng and americans?
[23:23] <@Chieftess> And gold?
[23:23] <+ThePenguin> spot vote: 1 for the gold plan, two for the two contacts, i beliebe
[23:23] <@Chieftess> Can we get any gold?
[23:23] <@Eklektikos> checking gold...
[23:23] * +Zarn1 is going to be away from the channel.
[23:23] * +CivGeneral hopes the Babs are not going to do something crayzy like the tales Falcon02 told me
[23:23] <@Eklektikos> writing, Babs & 24gold
[23:24] <@Chieftess> nice.
[23:24] <+eyrei> hmmm....
[23:24] <@Chieftess> Anything else?
[23:24] <+FortyJ> is it likely that we can turn around and sell writing to the others?
[23:24] <+eyrei> i hate to say it but....
[23:24] <+ThePenguin> i like
[23:24] <+CivGeneral> Falcon02's Tales of the domino wars made me cautious about the Babs.
[23:24] <@Chieftess> I know. Eyrei's FAVORITE phrase. :)
[23:24] * +eyrei wonders if anyone can guess what he is about to say
[23:24] <@Eklektikos> that's them cleaned out
[23:24] <+ThePenguin> i g2g
[23:24] <@Chieftess> "Take it to the forums!" :-)
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[23:24] <@Chieftess> donsig should know...
[23:24] <+eyrei> very good, CT;)
[23:25] <@Chieftess> That's what started PI#6.
[23:25] <@Chieftess> well, the chain of events.
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[23:25] <@Eklektikos> guess what... I agree with eyrei ;-)
[23:25] <+donsig> forums
[23:25] * +CivGeneral thinks that "Take it to the forums" is going to be a catch phrase for the CFC's Demogame
[23:25] * @Chieftess gasps! :)
[23:25] <@Eklektikos> so, back to the fora we go!
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[23:26] * +FortyJ thinks he arrived just in time
[23:26] <@Eklektikos> saving and closing down :-)
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[23:26] <+CivGeneral> And we were just getting started.
[23:26] <+FortyJ> War on Saturday!
[23:26] <+iguanaman8609> man i just got dropped again
[23:26] <+eyrei> it will give us more time to prepare our war plans
[23:26] <+eyrei> we have better maps now
[23:27] <+CivGeneral> It would also give me more time to draw up a new, better battle plans
[23:27] * +FortyJ is getting Photoshop warmed up...
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[23:27] <@Chieftess> Hey!
[23:27] <+ZeePenguin> hi
[23:27] <@Chieftess> Check England!
[23:27] <+CivGeneral> put that away
[23:27] <@Chieftess> They have tons of contacts!!
[23:27] <+iguanaman8609> FTP
[23:27] <+ZeePenguin> didnt feel like typing my pasword
[23:27] <+iguanaman8609> FTP
[23:27] <+ZeePenguin> really
[23:27] <+ZeePenguin> n in rpg
[23:27] <@Chieftess> 6 contacts!!!
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[23:27] <+ZeePenguin> ??
[23:27] * +CivGeneral Is getting his paint program ready
[23:27] <+ZeePenguin> pangea
[23:27] <+ZeePenguin> it has to be
[23:28] <@Chieftess> It's official. We're on a HUGE pangaea!
[23:28] <+ZeePenguin> no other explanation
[23:28] <@Eklektikos> guess we'll have a whole ot to discuss then ;-)
[23:28] <@Chieftess> That landbridge is VITAL! :)
[23:28] <+iguanaman8609> oh yea, i need some suggestions on the Valhallas flag and song
[23:28] <+ZeePenguin> landbridge?
[23:28] <+iguanaman8609> yea it is :)
[23:28] <+iguanaman8609> the one by Morgana
[23:28] <@Chieftess> That thick "bottleneck"
[23:28] <@Chieftess> East of where we are.
[23:28] <+ZeePenguin> ok
[23:28] <+ZeePenguin> we ended?
[23:28] <@Chieftess> someone called it a landbridge.
[23:29] <+eyrei> i agree, it is vital
[23:29] <+ZeePenguin> same
[23:29] <+eyrei> those are also rich lands
[23:29] <+CivGeneral> I too agree
[23:29] <+ZeePenguin> so are we done or just bickering?
[23:29] <+iguanaman8609> bickering
[23:29] <+ZeePenguin> ok
[23:29] <+eyrei> bickering?  we are discussing
[23:29] <+iguanaman8609> same diff
[23:29] <+ZeePenguin> potato, potato
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[23:30] <@Chieftess> Looks like America is next. 
[23:30] <+CivGeneral> Tomato, Tomato
[23:30] <@Chieftess> Another Ameri? :)
[23:30] <+eyrei> no, they are completely different terms
[23:30] <+eyrei> ;)
[23:30] <+ZeePenguin> okay
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[23:30] <+iguanaman8609> oh, i saw that Pic from the Demo game 1, that is impressive
[23:30] <+iguanaman8609> well, i g2g
[23:30] <+iguanaman8609> bye
[23:30] <@Falcon02> bye
[23:30] <+eyrei> the connotation of 'bickering' is that it is pointless, and a waste fo time
[23:30] <@Chieftess> Former General Falcon! We're about to make contact with the other half of the world!
[23:30] <@Falcon02> hi every one else
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[23:31] <@Falcon02> good
[23:31] <+eyrei> hi falcon
[23:31] <+CivGeneral> Hi Falcon02
[23:31] <@Chieftess> Things are starting to heat up, and we're about to go to war!
Session Close: Wed Oct 09 23:31:43 2002